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gobluegirl
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 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:22 am Post subject: Show # 5 out! Check it out! |
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Whew. We've finally got Tales From The 'Verse #5 out. Check it out at
www.talesfromtheverse.com
The featured story is "Going Home" by Lee Heller.
--Carolyn
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Design Zombie
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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That was a great episode!!!! I have yet to be disappointed with your authors.
As far as the conflict with the Serenity RPG, I really do not care. I am not very fond of that game (mostly because the system is clunky and unbalanced and mostly has nothing to do with the feel of Serenity). Anyway, I am not sure if Joss himself approved it or his publishers approved it.
Thank you again for putting out a great podcast!
Dustin (aka "of the Dead")
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BrownCoat_Tabz
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Dustin!  I'm glad you enjoyed the story. I found it to be AWESOME.... even though I had to swear in Chinese. Alot.
I agree, I don't really consider the RPG to be too canony... since it has stuff about submersibles in it (not too 'versey). And this was a great look into how war changes a body.
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gobluegirl
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We're glad you enjoyed the episode.
Just to clarify, Tabz was the one who read "Going Home." If you are fold of fan fiction, I do suggest you check out her podcast Strangely Literal. She runs lots of stories from all of Joss Whedon's universes, including Firefly, and her format is more open, so there are shorter stories there.
I've not played the RPG, but my husband did for about a year (he GMed), and seemed to enjoy it. The RPG is the best resource we've got right now for stuff that was not directly covered in the TV series or movie, but Joss is free to contradict it if he wants to.
What we really need is a Firefly Technical manual, that combines the best of the RPG with the best of the Visual Companions, but that is not tailored for a specific purpose like role-playing.
--gbg
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Design Zombie
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The way I see it is that if it was not mentioned in Firefly or Serenity, it probably does not need much detail in an RPG. I know that some stuff is necessary, but there was way too much details and descriptions in the RPG. Ironically my favorite part of the book was the info about the Verse, but I have been too scared to asked if that info was made up by the authors or approved by Joss (I have been attacked for criticizing that book before).
Eden Studios put out a 16 page article on how to turn your Buffy game into a "Firefly" game and they did such a good job of getting the feel in such few pages. That is why Firefly is my favorite Sci-Fi show, because they never got nerdy or techie like in other sci-fi shows (oh, and there was not any of that fruity altered reality stuff too). I have always described Firefly as the "Sci-Fi for the common fan" because it is not really a true sci-fi show. It transcends those stereo types.
So, I do not need to know how the space ships work or have lots of stats of equipment. If anyone has ever read the indie RPG called "Dogs in the Vineyard," that is exactly what I like in an RPG (all drama & ass kicking and less crunch). I also do not know what the obsession with poker was with the Serenity RPG. We never saw poker and this is not really the exact wild west.
Thanks for the recommendation of the Strangely Literal Podcast. I am listening right now.
Cheers!
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Companion Kate
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| Design Zombie wrote: | | Ironically my favorite part of the book was the info about the Verse, but I have been too scared to asked if that info was made up by the authors or approved by Joss |
Both.
First it was made up by the authors (I believe partly as a result of discussions with Joss), and then it was approved, both by Joss and by Universal.
It doesn't bother me that "Going Home" says something different from the RPG book. I just see it as an alternative universe story. No big deal. There's no "official" definition of canon; we all have to make up our own minds, but it's not worth arguing over. "Going Home" isn't canon, after all, so what does it matter? It was a damn good story.
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| Companion Kate wrote: | | There's no "official" definition of canon; we all have to make up our own minds |
*head explodes*
We can differ over what we want as our own personal set of stories, but we can't differ on the meaning of the word "canon".
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Design Zombie
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| Companion Kate wrote: | | First it was made up by the authors (I believe partly as a result of discussions with Joss), and then it was approved, both by Joss and by Universal. |
Thank you for that clarification. I had the impression that it was approved, but just like the novel, it had not been read by The Joss.
As far as canon is concerned with me, when something comes out as the official Serenity RPG, I would feel better about it saying on Canon (after all, it is supposed to be "Official" and that is what I bought it for). When it comes to fan fiction, then it is okay to veer off path (which leaves us knowing it is not official).
As far as the story is concerned, my favorite part about it is the fact that life is not black and white like Mal wants it to be. His good friends now do business or work for the Alliance, but it is an unfortunate fact of life.
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Vera17
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:11 pm Post subject: Going home: Episode 5 |
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I don't think it matters that Going Home was set on a "black rock" according to the RPG... in an edit a different border/rim world could be substituted. What I like most about this story is the connection for Mal between the war and owning Serenity. It ties up some loose ends for me, even though it is not cannon. The story has a feeling of authenticity about Mal's back story. I can't help but feel that had there been more, future Firefly episodes may have eventually gotten around to telling that story in a very similar way. Or there would have been some story about Mal and Zoe doing a few capers under some other captain until they had enough money for Serenity, but then I think Zoe would have been equal partners with Mal and not a first mate. So Going Home seems like a very plausible potential story arc to me.
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Companion Kate
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| theonetruebix wrote: | | *head explodes* |
Ooh, that was messy!
| theonetruebix wrote: | | We can differ over what we want as our own personal set of stories, but we can't differ on the meaning of the word "canon". |
Forgive me for being less clear than was intended. I did not mean to imply that the meaning of the word was undefined, only that the compass of the word was undefined. Perhaps I should have said: "There is no published list of which subset of licenced material we are required to accept as true within the Firefly universe and which we are required to reject". But we're off-topic for this forum. If you want to carry on talking about this, shall we take it over to General Discussions?
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BrownCoat_Tabz
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From what I understand Joss had no say on the RPG book. Someone asked him about it, showed it to him and he's like "oh cool there's one of those?"
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ironbandit
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Whatever, TABZ, you ROCK! That was one of the best stories that I've heard on this podcast. 'Course, I am a little late for the dance, just catching up now. I'm pretty sure that I had read this story before, and not only did the narrator ROCK, so did the AUTHOR! Wonderful tie-in to "Out of Gas".
As to "Shadow" being a black rock, what does the QMx poster have to say about it? I will know sometime in the next couple of weeks, I'm getting that and the blueprints. Alas, this story DOES violate canon, but no matter, it is still one of the shiniest stories that I have had the pleasure of reading and listening to.
Yes, fellow travelers, according to the Official Visual Companion to the BDM in "A Brief History of the Universe, circa 2507 ad", let it be written:
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He (Mal) joined out of belief ad nothing more. Five years gone found his homeworld destroyed, his army beaten down and every shred of belief ripped out of him. |
This is where the RPG got their source from. Paints an even bleaker picture of what Capt Tightpants suffered at the hands of the Alliance.
Still, this could be mollified with a few well chosen sentences explaining that the good folk of Shadow, having the foresight that their world was going to be torn asunder, embarked on an exodus to a nearby moon with all of their possessions, and reestablished their lives shortly after the war had started. That Mal was aware of this and the change to his home was just one more thing on top of the rest. |
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