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[boku68]

I am also eagerly awaiting this latest patch.

[KernelM]

I'm guessing the patch will be released right after Duke Nukem Forever ships.

[jeremy]

Precisely one day after.

I'm really not avoiding the patch. I've actually modified the files needed, I'm just stuggling to find the time to re-figure out how to build a patcher. At my day job, I have a ton of work to do for a convention next week, and I can't spare a minute. Please remind me later this month and I'll force myself to figure it out, duke Nukem or no. Sorry for the delay.
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[redheadedtim]

Awhile back, it was posted that what people are buying is the dvd, and the dvd-rom portion is bonus content. I hate to be confrontational, but after not being able to run ivex on my mbp, being able to run it on my shuttle pc no problem, and then being unable to run it on my mbp bootcamp'd into windows xp, i have to say the frustration has gotten to me. You need to list requirements for all content if you're going to be intellectually honest. Anyone who is buying DTI has had the chance to download it and burn it to dvd already via the torrent you released. I'm not saying that is a bad thing, it was great. The quality of it convinced me that the dvd-rom would be entirely worth it. Just as much as the dvd special features are a "bullet point" selling feature, the ability to see all of the interviews in their entirety is a selling point, and to say that it's merely "bonus" material is avoiding reality. I am 100% confident I am not alone when I say that the dvd-rom portion was THE reason I bought the dvd, besides supporting Firefly and charity. I don't know if the sales are still going at a decent rate these days, but it is the least you could do to offer a Requirements and/or FAQ that pointed out that for certain "Bonus" material, a pc is required, or a G4 mac, and that if you are running windows xp you must already own PowerDVD or WinDVD (my copy of xp that I used on my mbp with bootcamp doesn't come with such, which amounts to more $$ to be able to view content I bought), etc.

I'm not trying to be rude or disrespectful, and appreciate all of the time and effort that went into this, but if I didn't have an extra pc (which I use only for skype) I would never have been able to see the dvd-rom portion, and I would have been a lot more pissed off at the lack of warning present on your site. You don't even have a link to this forum for people to discuss it, at least, not that I saw (forgive me if I'm wrong).

BTW, I downloaded the trial of PowerDVD to my mbp, and IVEX still doesn't behave correctly. I'll search this thread some more (I read it earlier today but wasn't paying attention to the Windows related problems since my shuttle didnt have them until I decided to watch IVEX on the Pro. If I'm lucky, I'll get more than just the IVEX screen with no options enabled and no video playing.

[BubbaCoop]

I bought this DVD before I had a DVD-rom in my computer. I got the DVD-rom a few month back, but had loaned the DVD to a friend 6 hours away. I finally got it back, got Ivex installed, downloaded the patch, opened the Ivex player, and can access absolutely nothing. I've been looking forward to the full interviews for a LONG time.

[jeremy]

I wanted to cross post my reply to a complaint about the DVD-ROM from FireflyFans.net

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=48211&m=#

Hi Liminal,

Jeremy from Done The Impossible here... Thank you for the heads up on your issues with Done The Impossible. For the record, I never received a single email from you but as it turns out that is my fault. After reading your post I went back to my email and discovered I haven't received a single email to my done the Impossible account since 2009, I had just assumed nobody was emailing me (as emails to that account had slowed to a crawl by then anyway). So later today I'll go figure out what went wrong with my account, but I wanted to get back to you immediately. And I apologize for not getting back to you via email, I pride myself on my quick email replies, so I feel awful you never got one from me.

Let me start by saying you have a right to be frustrated. We really pushed the cutting edge with the DVD-ROM features on Done The Impossible. Our Interactive Viewing Experience (IVEX) on that disc is probably the most complex DVD-ROM ever created. It's a complex hybrid of Macromedia Director (with a slew of Xtras), Macromedia Flash, DVD-Video Playback and QuickTime playback, along with a thousands of lines of custom code. In fact we won the "Interactivist" award of 2007 for our work on that title. There are over 8,000 synchronized content events on the DVD-ROM. Not only that, but the content is completely updatable on the fly via the internet. And that's no small feat for a read-only disc .

The side effect of pushing the edge on the feature was that compatibility issues (none of them DRM related), have cropped up over the years since the disc was released. Not the least of which is the fact that the DVD-ROM doesn't work on my own platform of choice Mac OS X (intel). It still runs great on a G5 Mac, and once in a great while it'll work on an intel based Mac under Rosetta, but in most cases not. It also rarely runs under Vista, though surprisingly it usually runs great under Windows 7.

Needless to say we were pretty proud of what we had done on the DVD-ROM, and we wanted folks to see it. And as I mentioned in 2006, the reason we put some (mild) DRM on the ROM side was for mostly selfish reasons, we really wanted folks to experience all the coolness we had done on IVEX. It was also at the request of some of the BDH's that they preferred the whole interviews not get out onto the internet.

I personally HATE DRM, and so I feel rather guilty for putting it on our title. And I understand why you are frustrated, had the tables been turned, I'd have written a message exactly like the one you wrote.

First I'd like to find out what error you are getting on the DVD-ROM. As I mentioned, it usually works under Windows 7, though I believe you do have to have a third party DVD decoder installed (WinDVD, PowerDVD etc), the built in Windows Media Player decoder has issues.

So feel free to drop me an email at my main email account jeremy [at ] neish.com and I can help. Also, anybody else having issues can contact me directly there (though I should have my main Done The Impossible account back online later today).

Also, if we can't get the ROM working for you I'm happy to give you the media key that unlocks the QuickTime movies directly, I just ask that you respect the request of the Firefly actors and crew that the full length videos not get published in the wild on the internet.

Also, just wanted to let everyone know that we have new versions of Done The Impossible in the works, we are hoping to get a big compatibility patch out there this year. The final wall finally fell (there was one last Xtra that hadn't been ported to intel) and believe we can patch the DVD-ROM to work with nearly all modern machines. Also, we are working on an iOS version of the DVD & DVD-ROM, look for that later this year. And we might do a Blu-ray version, though, Blu-ray authoring is considerably more complex and memory limited (and expensive), so some of the stuff we pulled off on the DVD may not be possible on Blu-ray, we'll see.

Thanks,
Jeremy Neish
DoneTheImpossible.com
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[ukbrowncoat1949]

Hi

I recently bought the DVD, and am sorely disappointed that this still hasn't been fixed.

I have tried it on my Intel Macs, my G4 eMac, and a friends G5 iMac runningWindows on Parallels.

None of them can read it.
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