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[Companion Kate]

Show notes for part one
Show notes for part two


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[BrownCoat_Tabz]

Oooh shiny!
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[BrownCoat_Tabz]

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=14&t=25324

Here's a link to the discussion about what the tattoo on the girl's face in "Serenity" for Miranda
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[Boukman]

Loved this intense and clever Pilot episode discussion.

Now where can I hear the rated 18+ version? Hell, Triple X Reaver Talk even

[Dani]

I have a question, were they watching the episode while they discussed?

cos they ofter say, 'oh what happens next?' But then again they kinda talk like they are watching it.

[Dani]

They didnt mention the part when Mal tells Simon that Kaylee is dead
Did it get forgotten?

[kbachelder]

These shows aren't done as an episode commentary where the participants were watching the episode as they recorded. They are being done as thoughts and rememberances of the episode.


Kevin
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[Dani]

well, i think yall still did a great job, its just me being picky

[Jayhawk35]

I just wanted to add my 2 cents....I thoroughly enjoyed it. You did a great job of bringing up the highlights, and adding your own thoughts and personal experiences associated with watching the show.

It made for a great couple of days at work to make the time pass by a little more quickly with an occasional chuckle and smile on face!

Thanks! I can't wait to hear more!

J

[AmazonGrrl]

I almost threw on the DVD to watch while you did this quasi-commentary ...but the show is so engrained (?) into my memory that I just listened to y'all speak.
I must say that I'm surprised that you didn't know that the Alliance ship was called the Dortmunder...and that you thought the Crybaby was a barrel!
The Crybaby is, actually, much much smaller than a barrel.
It's inside a coffee can.
It even says "coffee" or "caffinated" on the can.
A suggestion for future Firefly episode chats:
When you're watching, have the subtitles on so you know what is being said.

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[Plastic Rocket]

I loved the discussion. There were parts of me that wanted it to be an alternate DVD commentary, but there was something so sincere in two people simply recalling the episode...awesome stuff.

I suppose it would be an interesting test to actually have the episode running...food for thought perhaps.
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[MrDave]

First, I am not trying to be critical I am trying to be constructive, I really do admire (and appreciate) the effort that goes into a program like this.

I had to wonder as I listened to this who your intended audience was. Was it long-time browncoats who have memorized all the episodes or perhaps more casual new converts who are looking for a fan perspective? For newer fans I can see the appeal for something like this, but as a long-time browncoat I found myself constantly thiking "is this an audio description for the blind?" I have seen this episode so many times I KNOW what is happening in each scene with little or no prompting.

I am reminded of a season TWO Buffy commentary by David Fury who said something about doing "Buffy for the blind". And thats what I felt like I was listening to..."Firefly for the blind"

Here's what I expected (and to be honest there were a few nuggets of this, but I really was hungry for more).

Trampas: "Opening Scene Serenity Valley. Miranda tell me what it was about this scene that you most remember."

Miranda: "I was struck by the fact that the Mal Reynolds we meet here is never seen again throughout the series. He's an alien to the Mal we know and love."

Trampas : "I know what you mean. He's very different from the Mal we get to know throughout the series. Interestingly enough he's a lot more like the Mal from Serenity. There are elements in there."

Miranda: "Absolutely! What do you most remember about this scene?"

Trampas: "Oh that's a tough one. Probably the look on Mal's face as the Alliance ships descend unimpeded into the valley at the end."

And so on.

The idea here is that WE know the episode and we have our own opinions, what we (okay what *I*) want to hear is something that will make me go "Wow, I had never thought about it like that."

Having said that, only one more observation to make:
Please refrain from using these phrases: (I am not quoting exactly but offering examples of which there were many in the podcast)

"And Ummmmmm..." as in the phrase "...and ummmmmmm he says 'We are too pretty to die'."
This could be edited out; it is dead air; and it makes your opinions carry less gravity and authority because you sound less sure.

"And Like" as in the phrase "...and, like, she was so tough and hard."
This is just an annoying language construction. If you are building a simile then it is okay, but generally people aren't; they are making a direct comparison. "I am a leaf on the wind" is a simile... but "I am, like, a leaf on the wind" just sounds silly.

"And Then" as in the phrase "...and then the ship went 'Zoom!'"
I am reminded of the way children tell stories when I hear this. "And then he...and then he...and then he..." I immediately tune out whatever comes after.

Don't get the idea that I didn't like your two-part commentary, I did. I just was moved to point out ways in which it can be pushed to be an extraordinary commentary that I would go out of my way to listen to rather than one I listen to becasue it came through my feed.

[Thad]

[MrDave]

[Companion Kate]

[Companion Kate]

[BrownCoat_Tabz]

I don't mind the umms (I edit out some of my own on my podcast, but this is a DISCUSSION... people um, say "like" and use sounds to illustrate what they're saying in real life). Miranda is just too cute not to let her say zoom!

I will say this, there's quite a few Whedonites out there who do reviews of shows (i.e Buffcast, Angel Investigtions, the WhedonCast, Cool Refreshing Zima, and etc.)

And it always seems to work best when people DON'T play the DVD while they're recording. What happens if you do is you get a lot of silence as they get wrapped up in the show... heheee

(same is true of some DVD commentaries I've heard).

Maybe having a basic outline of questions for the reviewers to think about when they watch the DVD so they know what's coming when they chat about it later would be helpful... Or just giving the people talking the general idea for them to say "My favorite part about this scene was XYZ.. what was yours?" That way the other person can formulate an idea of what to talk about, rather than being caught off guard...

Regardless, I think they're shiny and of COURSE every Browncoat alive will have their own "dang wish you would have talked about this" but if we all talked about every tiny bit of the show we'd never get out of an episode alive.
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[Companion Kate]

...and of course we'd be quite happy to have some of you guys take part in future Deep Geekings. It doesn't have to be just Signal crew.

MrDave?
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