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[Raycheetah]

Serenity 2 A New Hope?
Date : October 4, 2007 Writer : Clint Morris

I love "Firefly" – so much so every time I'd see it I'd squeeze its cheeks,
bring it in closer
and share saliva with it. It's a show that had the danglers to say "screw you!
We're not
going anywhere!" despite the fact the network yanked it after 12 episodes. And
then, just
when it looked like it was done, it remerged as a full-length mother-hoppin'
movie – and
by golly if it didn't bring a lump to George Lucas's throat.

When Alan Tudyk told me on the phone this morning that a sequel to "Serenity" –
that's the
name of the "Firefly" movie for those who've been up at Guantanamo Bay for the
past
couple of years – could be happening I just about dropped the phone (I didn't
though,
because the last time I did that it landed in the loo. Fried itself. And as a
consequence, I
lost all my numbers.) Tudyk says the newly-released "Serenity : Special Edition"
DVD has
been selling so hot, that there's talk in doing another movie.

"They had to put [the new DVD] out because they've been selling out of the other
one and
so Universal's like 'So, let's do another one'. And now… there's now a chance
there's going
to be another movie".

Tudyk agrees that even if it was a direct-to-DVD movie, it'd still be
worthwhile. Especially
since the whole DVD sequel is a big trend.

"It really is", says Tudyk. "Everybody in the Firefly crew – and that includes
the ones who
died in the movie – are excited about the prospect of doing another".

Nathan Fillion, says Tudyk, is especially keen. "We were out a couple of weeks
ago
together at a party and there was a bunch of people there, and he was like 'Oh,
look we're
Browncoats".

Great to hear Fillion's still as crazy as ever about wearing the Tightpants
again.

Tudyk says he heard from creator Joss Whedon a few weeks back – but mainly about
Tudyk's role in the new Western "3:10 to Yuma". "He sent me an email when it
first came
out because at first he thought I was a different character – by the trailer",
he laughs. "He
was like 'My god! You're playing such a bad-ass!' That was Ben Foster, who is
such a bad-
ass in that movie, and is just brilliant, just brilliant, and we both have a
similar look – we
both have polish genes – and anyway, Joss writes back 'Sorry, I didn't realise
you were the
sympathetic funny character – how would cast you as that?'. Joss, that would be
you!".

The actor, who appears in the new Frank Oz film "Death at a Funeral", is
absolutely blown-
away by the life "Firefly" has had. He's even headed downunder next week to
appear at a
science fiction convention. It amazes him even more that he got to do a feature
film
version of his 12-episode series. "That's wild; you don't see that happen until
years later
when it becomes a campy spoof of the thing. But even then, shows like Dukes of
Hazzard
and Starsky and Hutch were huge hits [from the beginning, and they didn't do
movies
straight away] this was something that was a hit only with a group of people and
it just
grew."

Likely to happen before a "Serenity" sequel though is an "I, Robot" sequel.
Tudyk visited
the set of Will Smith's latest movie "I am Legend" to talk about the movie
recently, and
says he'd be super excited to play Sonny the robot again.

Yep, but what about Wash? Now that there's the shizzle.

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YES! VINDICATION!

Now, let's get 'em from thinkin' 'bout it to DOIN' IT!

BUY MORE BDCEs!

Can't stop the signal!

And please DIGG the article at...
http://digg.com/movies/Serenity_sequel_possible_according_to_Alan_Tudyk

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[shadohrt]

I was just coming here to post this.... and you beat me to it :-p

Original link is:
http://www.moviehole.net/news/20071004_serenity_2_a_new_hope.html

[Raycheetah]

[darkfly]

sorry to burst anybody's bubble but I've already posted this topic in this forum in the movie section

[Raycheetah]

Mmm...kay?

Anyway...

(Shamelessly copied from an older post of mine on another board)

We GET this Big **** Sequel, we need to make a whole LOTTA noise!

We need to be in the newspapers for three weeks leading up to the premier, holding shindigs, giving interviews, doing charity work in our Brown Coats, and, generally, getting the attention of the mainstream. Universal knows we'll go see it; if we can drag along a lotta curious newbies, then, our numbers will be truly impressive.

Come the day of the release, we need to buy tickets to every showing the first day, and, spend it in the theater. Remember, this is what we WANT; if we can get it, we need to show how much we appreciate it. Come to think of it, we also need to be at the box office, and, share out some of those tickets to folks standing in line waiting to see something else. We did it last time; we can do it again, this time.

If we don't take a second chance seriously, we won't GET a third. Yeah, we have a lotta numbers, but, every one of us needs to maximize his or her impact. We need to ensure that the release of our BDS makes Lucas' Star Wars Episode 1-3 prequel releases look anemic. We need to be more visible, more intelligent, more respectful and respectable, and, in all ways, do our fellow Browncoats proud.

When we get that BDS, we need to coordinate alla that. We have the network; we can turn the US into one, big, Browncoat Nation for a week and more. THEN, we will have proved to Universal that they invested in the right buncha fans.

Gorram right, we will.

Can't stop the signal!

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[Raycheetah]

(Hmmm... Talkin' to myself, again...)

Upon further reflection, I think, in my humble, understated opinion, that we will know something, implicitly, by tomorrow evening.

Joss has already had all day, today, to quash the rampant news, if he was going to. If he has not done so by tomorrow, then, I think that we can safely assume that there's a deal in the making. Mebbe not a DONE deal, but, we can assume that Alan spoke the first-draft gospel.

Let's see what tomorrow brings.

Hold the line, browncoats!

-Raycheetah =^[.]^=

ETA: By the way, if you see ANYTHING online that looks like news about this, please be sure to check the date. There was, coincidentally, a similar story, quickly negated by Joss, exactly a year ago, which some folks, either ignorantly or, with some ill intent, are putting forward as evidence that this is a hoax, bad dream, whatever.

Just to be sayin.'

-RC ='[.]'=
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[Companion Kate]

[Raycheetah]

[cheryl]

Please,Please,Please let there be a sequel. I'll be a good girl, eat my veggies, and be your best friend. PLEASE!!!!!!!!

[shadohrt]

Wait, isn't "A New Hope" supposed to be the subtitle of the fourth film?

[RagtagVerse]

Now is probably the best time to start buying up copies of Serenity/Firefly wherever you can find them.. Let's push this thing over the edge!

[darkfly]

Actually more Serenity since Fox made Firefly and Universal won't give two hoots about the DVD sales of Firefly since they didn't make it and buy the Collector's Edition especially since the sequel lies on the sales of the CE more than the standard DVD.

[shadohrt]

[Raycheetah]

darkfly has the right of it, though; Firefly is all F*X's; they have the rights, they get the money *spits on the ground*. Doesn't mean I'll stop buying it. However...

The Big Damn Collector's Edition is where we need to invest our moolah, right now. Better than letters, emails, or cans of nuts, a studio responds to cashy money.

Universal needs to see continuing high sales of the BDCE, so they know we're spending our money on the 'Verse. They can project that a substantial percentage of the unit sales of this item can be expected for the next movie they release, which tells 'em how much they can afford to invest in making it.

If you need someone to give 'em to, try a firestation:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=30176

But, if you can swing it, buy 'em.

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[Raycheetah]

Still no word from Joss.

3 August: Joss states about the BDCE in an interview at Comic Con 2007 that:

"Hope for it (Serenity 2) probably rests with this DVD."

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/news.php?id=6846

When the BDCE started to sell /out of stock/ in a variety of retail venues, it became clear that demand had exceeded supply, and, the original sales projections. Joss, who is usually quite vocal in thanking us Browncoats for our support of this kind of release has been remarkably quiet.

Why might that be? 'Cause, if he were to publically acknowledge that the BDCE had sold very well, he would expose himself to questions about how it affected the possibility of a sequel. Why would he not want to answer that sort of question?

'Cause he wouldn't want to rock the boat for whatever's goin' on with Universal. He wouldn't want to be rushed into making a statement before it was "solid."

On the other hand, how long do you think Joss would leave us hangin' fire on a false rumor? Typically, Joss is on bum rumors PDQ: "Nope, nothing to see here, go on back to your homes..."

It's goin on three days, so far, with nary a word.

Oh, yeah, the signs are there, all right.

Hold the line!

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[Browncoat Bud]

Hey Ray!

It's definitely the most exciting news on FF since I became a Browncoat - which was only about 6 months ago, admittedly... but I reckon the longer we don't hear from Joss correcting the Alan Tudyk comment, the more likely that it's true...

I wonder if they're currently debating the scope of the project? - whether to go smaller budget straight to dvd, or go for the full on blockbuster...

I recall reading some comments of Joss' that he'd like Mutant Enemy to become a production house for smaller scale projects that get released straight to dvd, and possibly FF will be the starting point for that. That said, I'd be highly surprised if Universal didn't push for another big(ger) scale production this time around.

Anyhow - holding the line right with ya buddy

[Raycheetah]

Heyya, Bud! Good to seeya here!

Only six months? Gorramit, man; I figured you for an old-timer!

When, exactly, this movie gets made, assuming it is on its way, depends on whether or not Joss has already prepared a script.

There is likely gonna be a WGA (Writers' Guild of America) strike, either the end of this month, or, they might postpone their strike to synchronize with the SAG (Screen Actors' Guild) strike which is likely to occur at the end of June. That means that the TV/motion picture industry will likely come to a standstill for the duration of the negotiations, possibly for months.

See the very informative discussion of this on the Sci-Fi.com BSG board:

http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2289490

I'm hopin' Joss is ready to run, 'cause, as a member of the WGA (and, I am certain he is), he will be bound not to do any writing during the strike, which includes script re-writes during production.

So, timing is gonna be... Interestin'... In the Wash sense of the word.

Meanwhile, still not a word from Joss. I'm actually lovin' this deafening silence!

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[shadohrt]

As Joss, I am sure, would have told us as soon as the sequel was certainly a bust I am holding out hope that this means a hush order is in place.

Also, the writer's guild strike may not affect this. It is distinctly possible that Joss already has the story done and written simply because of the love of the media. I know that writers tend to write and good ideas come on their own whether you want them to or not. It seems to me that the general concept for the Verse through the end of Serenity was there from the beginning.... so why not more? I am sure that the next movie will either solve the mystery of Book or Inara... and I know those stories were done before FF was shot.

[Companion Kate]

As a writer myself (albeit not of the caliber of Joss), I have to say the very concept of a writer's strike is nonsense. You can't stop ideas from coming. They happen. They happen when you've been thinking about stuff a lot, and then especially when you stop thinking and are just lying in bed or in the bath or commuting. No strike can stop this, and this is 90% of the work of writing. Getting it typed out is just the other 10%.

Joss has talked about how he writes. He plots it all out in advance (which is what I do). So what does the strike ban? Thinking? Scribbling in notebooks? Typing?

Writers don't get paid by the hour anyway. If a novelist stops writing, all that happens is that the book doesn't get written. <rhetorical>Who does that hurt?</rhetorical>

And if American writers go on strike, wouldn't networks just employ British writers? (I don't mean for Serenity's sequel, obviously - just TV in general)

I'm confused.
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[Browncoat Bud]

Erm - Kate I don't think they're going on strike against their own imagination to prevent their brains from coming up with ideas...

It seems the writers are feeling that the studios are putting forward a proposal which does not allocate sufficient percentages of profits to the writers, particularly with respect to 'new media'. I assume that's referring to internet based, and mp4 type releases. Unsure...

Striking would seem a risky avenue - there are so many prospective writers out there, no doubt the shoes can be filled. However, the question begs whether that will bleed the industry of professionalism.

Ur... I was going to write more on this but gotta go to work now... more later...

[Companion Kate]

Ooh, this could turn into an interesting discussion. But we'd best take it over to "Anything Goes", and let this thread resume its discussion of the Alan Tudyk rumor.

OK, let's continue that topic here. You (or anybody else) can help fill me in on the details.
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[Movie_Boy49]

Howdy guys, long time, no post . It's been a little hectic. After D*Con, it took me a little long to recover. Sorry to burst the proverbial bubble, but Moviehole, according to my sources, has the credibility rating of the Weekly World News. Now I don't know for sure, but I believe these sources. Somewhat. Also, what I'm hearing is that the producer's unions are going on strike. So cross your fingers that the strike isn't in November!!! Or it just ends up like the GM walkout and it stops after about 2 days. Sorry it took so long to post. NEVER AGAIN!!!
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[Movie_Boy49]

I'm sorry, I'm an idiot. The fight is BETWEEN the producers' and writers' unions. Sorry again.
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[laoshi]

This is what happens when I stay away from the Forums for too long. How did I miss this. Joss You can have my first born if you write Serenity 2. For a trilogy you can have my whole family. Not sure what you'd do with them... Anyway I don't see how a writers strike would effect Joss. Ok it might delay the actual writing of a script. But surely that has nothing to do with getting an agreement in principle to do a sequel.
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[Raycheetah]

I smell a whole lotta "accordin' to my sources" comin' offa this story; no one can provide us with a direct quote about this from anybody EXCEPT from Alan Tudyk. Moviehole may or may not be a reliable resource, but, I'm gonna take this opportunity to reiterate a coupla things:

First, if the Moviehole writer wanted to set himself up for a libel suit, as well as draw the ire of an angry fandom known for its intense passion, he might have lied and put words in Alan Tudyk's mouth. That just doesn't seem altogether likely.

Second, this has, understandably, gotten very big press within the Browncoat community. It is inconceivable, at this point, that Joss has not caught wind of this story. Joss loves his shiny Browncoats. Just how long does anyone think Joss would leave us hanging fire on a false rumor?

Quite the contrary, Joss has ALWAYS been very quick to step on bum info about our show. We still have heard nothing from him since Thursday. That's a VERY encouraging sign.

And, third, Shepherd Book's last words to Mal, and, to us, were, "I don't care what you believe! Just... Believe it. Whatever you have to..." We have to believe that our show isn't dead. We're Browncoats, We DO the impossible. We live on air and our belief.

So, until Joss says otherwise, we need to believe, to stop doubting. Even if just for now, we need to enjoy this hope, 'cause, we have earned it, with our love, with our money, with our passionate support. Joss' silence is golden. Bask in it.

Joss Watch: Day four.

Hold the line.

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[Companion Kate]

[Raycheetah]

Well, Kate, I can certainly respect your reserving the right to remain skeptical. We've heard a lot of scuttlebutt in the past two years.

I'd just like to clarify upon what part of the interview:

http://www.moviehole.net/news/20071004_serenity_2_a_new_hope.html

...exactly, I am basing my hopes:


When Alan Tudyk told me on the phone this morning that a sequel to "Serenity" -that's the name of the "Firefly" movie for those who've been up at Guantanamo Bay for the past couple of years - could be happening I just about dropped the phone (I didn't though, because the last time I did that it landed in the loo. Fried itself. And as a consequence, I lost all my numbers.) Tudyk says the newly-released "Serenity : Special Edition" DVD has been selling so hot, that there's talk in doing another movie.

"They had to put [the new DVD] out because they've been selling out of the other one and so Universal's like 'So, let's do another one'. And now- there's now a chance there's going to be another movie".


The text in bold is CLEAR: There is talk going on with Universal about a sequel. In other words, it went from "Not possible" to "Quite possibly." The last sentence in this excerpt pretty much sums it all up.

Barring Alan or the writer from Moviehole lying, this sounds like what it sounds like: Events have followed perhaps a different sequence than previously, but, there are at least some initial, positive discussions with the studio about Serenity 2.

If anyone can come up with a different interpretation of Alan Tudyk's words, encompassing exactly what he said, I will certainly entertain an alternative position.

And, so, I reserve the right to smile quietly and enjoy some nice, shiny hope.

Your mileage may vary.

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[Companion Kate]

[Raycheetah]

In hopes of correcting what appears to be a misunderstanding of my previous post, I'm gonna say just a little more, and, with the indulgence of her understanding, try not jeopardize further the goodwill of the poster whose questions I intend to answer...

[Companion Kate]