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 Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:03 pm Post subject: Serenity test screening spoiler FREE comments / reviews. |
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For those of you lucky bastards that got invited to the test screening, this is the place to post your comments / reviews.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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First review is in!!! From TheZeppo:
http://whedonesque.com/?comments=5573
"..the entire theatre roaring with applause, trembling with cheers, and jolting in suspense throughout the ENTIRE FILM."
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"Serenity will let no Joss fan down, no science fiction fan down, and no movie fan down. Period."
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Two questions for a LDB (lucky damn bastard) who saw the screening;
1. How long was the movie (in it's current form).
2. What do you think it's probable rating will be?
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:10 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure how long it was.
From the flier, they are aiming for a pg-13, but what we saw felt like it was on the strong side of R.
It was amazing,
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| jeremy wrote: |
1. How long was the movie (in it's current form).
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I'm going to answer my own question. According to one of the comments on Whedonesque it clocks in at just over two hours. Woo! Let's hope the studio lets Joss keep it that long. And now I can't wait for the extended version on DVD.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:16 am Post subject: Serenity |
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| Not a normal poster but just wanted to give my two bits. I just got home literally five minutes ago from the screening. I loved this movie. It was awesome I am so glad I do not have to wait until September. Sorry everyone else. The action, the humor, the drama it was all so amazing. I can't wait for the rest of the world to see it either. oh and Joss was there I got to see Joss. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for posting, and welcome. Please stick around and post some more soon. Isn't Joss the nicest? And Chris Buchanan. Thanks for the news that they were there.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:13 am Post subject: |
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DANG Jeremy! You're fast. I just came over to give you a link to my report and you already have me up. Please be sure you get the one I edited, so I don't need to be embarrased by my fatigue and poor spelling. Please.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:28 am Post subject: |
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Damnitgirlie:
So far, "DUKE" did not make it into the current cut of the film. Which was too bad. I sure hope he gets into a final cut. Or as Chris B, said...thats what DVD extras are for. |
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| jeremy wrote: | Two questions for a LDB (lucky damn bastard) who saw the screening;
1. How long was the movie (in it's current form). Little over two hours, but I can't be sure since it was hauling @ss!
2. What do you think it's probable rating will be? |
R...very R! I wish PG13 but right now RRRRR. Lots of violence. Appropriate violence, but violence. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Rated R??
Uh oh. That frightens me a bit. Getting an "R" rating severely cuts your revenue potential. Plus about 3/4ths of "my" converts won't go to "R" rated movies, us LDS folk (Mormons) aren't really supposed to. 'Course no power in the verse will keep me from the BDM.
Are you sure it was violent enough to warrent an "R"? Keep in mind LOTR movies were PG-13 and they were pretty violent. The MPAA isn't so fast at giving out "R" ratings just for violence. Now if there is a bunch of nudity or more than about 4 "F-bombs" plus a bunch of violence, then I think we can guarantee an "R".
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for shutting down the spoilers Jeremy. I think that's a wise move!
And congratulations on the tattoo exposure.
I can't imagine Joss going for an R rating. He would probably trim it down to a PG13 if he had to. You can get away with a lot with a PG13 these days. |
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Actually, so-called "spoilers" don't bother me.
Consider--have you watched the boxed set more than once? Was it spoiled the second, third, fourth, and fifth times because you already knew everything that was going to happen.
As a Lit major from way back, if something can be "spoiled," then it doesn't really hold up to the test of time. Knowing what's happening or going to happen, if the art is produced well (like the works of Shakespeare) in my opinion enhances the experience and allows a greater depth.
Wait . . . did I just compare Firefly with Shakespeare? I guess I did.
Oh, and Jeremy . . .
Forgive the change of subject and my poor recall of your faith, but I seem to remember one of your Articles of Faith stating something like "if there is anything good or praiseworthy, we seek after these things." I read that as meaning that it should be sought after no matter what the rating is. The MPAA ratings is a guideline for the maturity of the audience, not a divine statement of praiseworthiness.
My opinion, of course.
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Wow I'm impressed, that's perfect! I didn't even remember that. Hehe! Thanks.
My take on the "R" rated thing has always been, the MPAA isn't ordained, and thus shouldn't be taken as a black and white rule, but should be used as a guide.
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| jeremy wrote: | Rated R??
Uh oh. That frightens me a bit. Getting an "R" rating severely cuts your revenue potential. Plus about 3/4ths of "my" converts won't go to "R" rated movies, us LDS folk (Mormons) aren't really supposed to. 'Course no power in the verse will keep me from the BDM.
Are you sure it was violent enough to warrent an "R"? Keep in mind LOTR movies were PG-13 and they were pretty violent. The MPAA isn't so fast at giving out "R" ratings just for violence. Now if there is a bunch of nudity or more than about 4 "F-bombs" plus a bunch of violence, then I think we can guarantee an "R". |
Damnitgirlie again:
Yeah, my hubby and I discussed it. It COULD make PG13. I don't know if I considered it more violent then LOR, just more realistically violent. Does this make sense?
But I think they will get the PG 13 in the end with very minimal alterations if any. However, keep in mind...I took my youngest to see the LOR pics. I don't know that I feel comfy with her seeing this, and she will be 10 when it comes out. I STRONGLY reccommend previewing it before you let your kids see it. (Which I usually do) |
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| I've been reading everything posted about the screening last night and it seems a lot of people are worried about whether non Joss fans or firefly fans love the movie. Well I went to the screening with a friend of mine who had never even heard of the television show and he loved it. He was as speechless as I was when the final credits ran. The two of us were asked to stay for the focus group afterward and of the 26 people who were asked to stay 5 of them had never seen or heard of firefly. That's almost 20% right? (I was never very good at math) My friend rated the movie an excellent and a few of the other non firefly fans gave it a very good. There wasn't one person in the focus group that gave it a less than good review. So with that said I think this movie will do well with everyone who is interested in this type of adventure. It was an amazing film even with all of the things missing. I just wish everyone had seen it so I could talk to somebody about everything that happened. It is a great movie. But I guess we all expected that. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Cynewulf the Saxon wrote: | Actually, so-called "spoilers" don't bother me.
Consider--have you watched the boxed set more than once? Was it spoiled the second, third, fourth, and fifth times because you already knew everything that was going to happen.
As a Lit major from way back, if something can be "spoiled," then it doesn't really hold up to the test of time. Knowing what's happening or going to happen, if the art is produced well (like the works of Shakespeare) in my opinion enhances the experience and allows a greater depth. |
Sorry to digress here a little, but seeing the series or film for the SECOND time is not the point. I don't want it to be spoiled for my FIRST time.
Many moons ago, I managed to stay spoiler-free for months leading up to the Australian release of "The Empire Strikes Back." I STILL get shivers up my spine when I think of Darth Vader's big revelation. If I had known that months in advance, I never would have had that reaction.
I do agree that great works of art can stand up to repeated viewing/reading, etc, but there's nothing like the first time, especially when there are plot surprises. I WANT to be surprised! That's half the fun. |
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Didn't Joss at some point say it will be rated what ever its rated?
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:22 am Post subject: |
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Duncan--
I find it interesting that you happened to bring up that particular example, the Darth Vader revelation.
Like you, I saw the movie completely unspoiled. My reaction, however, was totally different than yours. Mine was along the lines of "what the hell is that lying sack of scheise up to?"
Vader -- I am your father
Luke -- No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!
Vader -- Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
Luke -- No! No! No!
I wasn't shivering from any revelation, I was wondering what Vader was up to, perhaps trying some dark side Jedi mind trick. "These aren't the droids you're looking for, I am your father, move along." A spoiler, in this instance, would have enhanced the experience, because a) I wouldn't have felt mislead, and b) I would have been watching expressions a lot closer, rather than wondering how Luke was going to get out of the situation.
But hey, different people, different strokes, etc. I guess I'm of the opinion that if someone wants to speculate on what may or may not be a spoiler, having a separate forum is probably a good thing. Those who prefer NOT to have spoilers, simply don't go to that forum. It's like television. If you don't want to see what's on, change the channel or turn it off. Don't have the FCC shut it down for everyone.
Again, my opinion.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:08 am Post subject: |
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I respect your point of view, and the underlying principle of freedom of information. (and by the way, I just noticed that you're not far away from me - I'm in San Rafael!)
I guess the bottom line is...would the creator/owner of this property (Joss) want all the eggs out of the basket in an uncontrolled manner many months before he has the opportunity to recoup his (or Universal's) investment?
I suspect the answer is no. And as I think I've said before - working in the biz, I've seen first-hand how unauthorized leaks can affect not only the company's profits but also the audience's perception of the product in a harmful way. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| in case you don't know Joss posted today on whedonesque about the movie screening |
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| WHERE! LINK PLEASE!!!! |
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The screening seems to be getting some great reviews. Taking into consideration that this is not the finished product, that is a might impressive.
September can not get here fast enough for me.
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| AGGHH my evil employer has blocked the Whedonesque site... and they wonder why we have a morale problem. |
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Not to worry. The floggins will continue until the morale improves.
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I warned my boss that I'd be taking time off for the movie... she thinks I'm kidding.
Some people lack priorities! |
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| Quote: | I warned my boss that I'd be taking time off for the movie... she thinks I'm kidding.
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I know...  I got the same reaction when I told my boss I was going to be late the morning after the Matrix Revolutions premiere. You know how they did a simultanious release, all over the world? Well, here in Melbourne, that meant 2AM on a Thursday morning.
I work in a very relaxed environment, so whenever she give's me crap about getting excited over such things, I just have tell her that it's not my fault she's too old, and joyless to appreciate anything enough to be excited about it. It never goes down too well. 
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| Quote: | | Uh oh. That frightens me a bit. Getting an "R" rating severely cuts your revenue potential. Plus about 3/4ths of "my" converts won't go to "R" rated movies, us LDS folk (Mormons) aren't really supposed to. 'Course no power in the verse will keep me from the BDM. |
lets hope for a PG13 Theatrical cut, followed by an R, or Unrated DVD!
Also, does anyone else think the following is a bit weird:
| Quote: | | The MPAA isn't so fast at giving out "R" ratings just for violence. Now if there is a bunch of nudity or more than about 4 "F-bombs" |
I've always thought that Nudity and Language would be far less of a proble than Violence?!? Nudity is just skin, and language is just words, but decapitations are decapitations...
| Quote: | | Yeah, my hubby and I discussed it. It COULD make PG13. I don't know if I considered it more violent then LOR, just more realistically violent. Does this make sense? |
I get what you mean, it's more the tone of the film, than the actual violence itself? That makes sense, and it is a very exciting concept for me personally!!!
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Also, does anyone else think the following is a bit weird:
| Quote: | | The MPAA isn't so fast at giving out "R" ratings just for violence. Now if there is a bunch of nudity or more than about 4 "F-bombs" |
I've always thought that Nudity and Language would be far less of a proble than Violence?!? Nudity is just skin, and language is just words, but decapitations are decapitations...
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The only logic I've been able to make of the violence vs nudity thing is that violence in movies is fake, but nudity is real. Real things being more shocking than fake ones. Still doesn't make much sense to me.
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