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Companion Kate
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 Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:05 am Post subject: Season 5, Episode 6 |
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Dani
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:32 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for yet another superb episode. It was teriffic. The interview was a lot of fun. Cant wait for Bellflower to come out.
The segment on the Earth that was timeline was very interesting. If a little scary. Why was australia singled out as the only surving landmass though?
And listening to the DNA collection made me wonder. Did an ark ship go missing? Were the embryos unsuccessful in maturing. I am sure somewhere some one was relating a story about a dolphin as if it were legend. I cant remember properly. I will have to watch the series again me thinks. |
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Lemming
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| Dani wrote: | Thank you for yet another superb episode. It was teriffic. The interview was a lot of fun. Cant wait for Bellflower to come out.
The segment on the Earth that was timeline was very interesting. If a little scary. Why was australia singled out as the only surving landmass though?
And listening to the DNA collection made me wonder. Did an ark ship go missing? Were the embryos unsuccessful in maturing. I am sure somewhere some one was relating a story about a dolphin as if it were legend. I cant remember properly. I will have to watch the series again me thinks. |
Hmm, don't recall that. However, taking the scary theme further...just how many species were actually left by the time someone thought to collect all the samples? (which itself would have been a huge undertaking that probably would have finished off some species on the brink)
There may have been others that failed to be regrown (artificial womb for a Blue Whale anyone?)
So I could certainly believe that Cetaceans were one group that sadly failed to make it as far as the arks (ST IV notwithstanding 
Though I'm also guessing that we would have chosen to not bother with Screwfly, mosquitoes (or at least the diseases they carry: they are actually pollinators when not chowing down on blood), athletes foot, HIV, ebola (though ironically, frozen samples for all the microbial nasties exist even now, all ready to pack!)
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Dani
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yeah. ok. your probably right.
after terra forming, they could pick and choose what animal life they wanted. The alliance may eve have a secret bank/planet/zoo hidden away somewhere, which a private collection of animals are stored both living and back up copies of the original embryonic DNA from Earth.
Why worry about destroying habitat for cattle when you dont have to introduce the animals in the first place. The more I think about it, the more I feel that it would be decided that it was in the best interests of the human population if only a very small bio-diversity/ food web were to be introduced onto each world. Wild animals could be seen as a luxury. And if the animal didn't have a specific purpose in its environment, then why bother having it at all. Horses, dogs, cattle, pollinating insects, dung bettles, are all useful. Fish stocks may only be of edible type, poultry too. |
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Lemming
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Dani wrote: | yeah. ok. your probably right.
after terra forming, they could pick and choose what animal life they wanted. The alliance may eve have a secret bank/planet/zoo hidden away somewhere, which a private collection of animals are stored both living and back up copies of the original embryonic DNA from Earth.
Why worry about destroying habitat for cattle when you dont have to introduce the animals in the first place. The more I think about it, the more I feel that it would be decided that it was in the best interests of the human population if only a very small bio-diversity/ food web were to be introduced onto each world. Wild animals could be seen as a luxury. And if the animal didn't have a specific purpose in its environment, then why bother having it at all. Horses, dogs, cattle, pollinating insects, dung bettles, are all useful. Fish stocks may only be of edible type, poultry too. |
Nope. You'd just end up with eco collapse again. There has to be a minimum amount of biodiversity to keep even an engineered environment in a self sustaining manner. While some picking and choosing would be inevitable, we'd run the risk of messing it all up if we left out termites for example (termite farts are integral to maintaining the natural carbon cycle of this planet for example)
Even pests or parasites have a purpose sometimes
Unless we really had got the whole web of life thing figured out, we'd mess with what works at our peril (much as we are now)
But yeah, I could see initial set up somewhat simplified with gradual introduction of more complex ecosystem components over time...somewhat like natural succession in earthly environments.
While the nuts and bolts of Terraforming are stated to take decades (which was why we had to invoke the superscience explanation of nanobots: millenia is more realistic), the whole process would almost certainly have to be more like centuries to even approach ETW levels of biodiversity IMO.
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lhoward
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| Lemming wrote: |
Nope. You'd just end up with eco collapse again. There has to be a minimum amount of biodiversity to keep even an engineered environment in a self sustaining manner. While some picking and choosing would be inevitable, we'd run the risk of messing it all up if we left out termites for example (termite farts are integral to maintaining the natural carbon cycle of this planet for example)
Even pests or parasites have a purpose sometimes
Unless we really had got the whole web of life thing figured out, we'd mess with what works at our peril (much as we are now)
But yeah, I could see initial set up somewhat simplified with gradual introduction of more complex ecosystem components over time...somewhat like natural succession in earthly environments. |
Which ties in with our Terraformers episode this episode. Ecosystem balancing (jump-starting the biosphere to a stable state) would actually be a challenging problem. Not like you could just dump a bunch of biology on a rock (everything from bacteria to goats) and expect it to come to a stable system easily.
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Satai
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I find the thought of a lost Ark-ship intriging. I bet there is rumurs going round in the 'Verse about such things all the time. Imagine the gargantuan riches waiting in one of those. And of course the mutaded evil fauna/beast that still prawl its dark interior... 
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