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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:05 pm    Post subject: Season 1, Episode 8.5 Reply with quote

No special features this week, just a show full of emails (and a Jewel Staite interview we borrowed from Sci-Fi talk)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for 20 minutes there i was a total and complete idoit.... today IS wednesday, not monday

sorry but i have kept some strange hours in the wake of Katrina hitting New Orleans and my days have all sort of meshed together


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a cool tool, but there is no problem with this site!

The broken link is just the link to show notes for this episode. The reason it's broken is because I haven't written the show notes yet. It's all perfectly logical. Just be patient, and please rely on your common sense instead of an automated tool which can't figure out what's going on.

Also ... this thread is for Special Edition #3, not for suspected problems with the web page. Please can we talk about SE#3 here?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I put in a request or suggestion? If not, then ignore the rest of this post...lol If so, I know you have ALL been busy with lots of things going on. I feel you should try to get ahold of Chris Buchanan for an interview for 'The Signal'. I haven't met him in person yet, but have been emailing him since I was deployed in Afghanistan. Just a thought.....

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:13 pm    Post subject: Two SE#3s??? Reply with quote

Shouldn't this be SE#4? You already did a SE#3.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caitiff wrote:
I haven't met him in person yet, but have been emailing him


Sounds good to me. Could you send us his email address please? (Don't post it here though, obviously - email us at signal att serenityfirefly dott com).

That would definitely be a cool interview to get, but no promises, obviously.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Two SE#3s??? Reply with quote

Firefly_Rox wrote:
Shouldn't this be SE#4? You already did a SE#3.


If you're refering to the competition we did to win Serenity premiere tickets, that was only online for a day or two, and obviously won't be online again since the premiere has been and gone and the competion is over.

So that one doesn't count in the numbering. You can't really count something that isn't archived on the website.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another great show. Thanks for posting the NYC Press Screening Recap and allowing me to shamelessly plug our local NYC Browncoats.

I really look forward to this show every week and it's great for the newbies.

I like that you are thinking of going to a monthly format after the film opens but maybe you could keep doing it every week for four weeks after the film opens. It would help to get people in to see the show those critical second and third weeks. Just a thought.

Well done everyone.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dietcoke wrote:
I like that you are thinking of going to a monthly format after the film opens but maybe you could keep doing it every week for four weeks after the film opens. It would help to get people in to see the show those critical second and third weeks. Just a thought~


We are committed to continuing the Signal as a weekly show until the end of October. After that, who knows?

Going monthly from November was Kari's idea. Me, I'd prefer to have sporadic episodes on special occasions, like maybe a Serenity Squared special, or a christmas special, or whatever. But mostly I'd like to see the whole Firefly podcasting field open up into new directions, with new people making new podcasts. (But that's just my personal opinion). I guess we'll have more of that kind of discussion nearer the time. The main thing I want to stress though is the no decision has been taken beyond the end of October. It's all up for discussion.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Companion Kate wrote:

Going monthly from November was Kari's idea.


Yep. And it was just that...an idea. Nothing has been decided yet and that was just something I threw out off the top of my head. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just too fun to let go. Maybe it could be expanded into other topics, like Sci/Fi conventions or Film Festivals and other topics that Browncoats love. Maybe sharing some of the good fan fiction.

Hey, even I could do an interpretative dance for a podcast. (You GOT to have an interpretative dance!) Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the main issue is not having enough to talk about, but the amount of time & effort it takes the team to produce the podcast. We're going full-bore now and will continue for a while but we can't keep up this pace forever. There are lots of ways to do this... we could reduce frequency, episode length, number of highly produced pieces (how to speak chinese, the BlueSun adverts, feature segments) per episode, or.... This is really where we want your input.

Personally, as long as I my "real life" allows me to have time to spend on it and there is good work I can do promoting & talking about Firefly I want to keep going in some fashion.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jill,

I sent the email out with CB's email info. And for those curious, I got his permission before doing so. Just something I always do.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then rest assured, we will request an interview.

But we don't like to make promises we can't keep, so please don't assume that a CB interview will necessarily happen. He may be too busy, have other commitments, or whatever. But we will try, and thank you very much for the info.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dietcoke wrote:
It's just too fun to let go. Maybe it could be expanded into other topics, like Sci/Fi conventions or Film Festivals and other topics that Browncoats love. Maybe sharing some of the good fan fiction.

Hey, even I could do an interpretative dance for a podcast. (You GOT to have an interpretative dance!) Very Happy


All absolutely brilliant ideas. Especially the dance (We've got a new segment that we're hoping will go out on Winging It that that would be perfect for!).

So, if it's too fun to let go, don't let go. Make podcasts! The more the better.
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lhoward wrote:
I think the main issue is not having enough to talk about,

Agreed. I can't see us running out of material, ever.
lhoward wrote:
but the amount of time & effort it takes the team to produce the podcast. We're going full-bore now and will continue for a while but we can't keep up this pace forever. There are lots of ways to do this... we could reduce frequency, episode length, number of highly produced pieces (how to speak chinese, the BlueSun adverts, feature segments) per episode, or.... This is really where we want your input.

Spot on, so let's hear some input, folks. Tell us stuff. We really want to hear.
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Personally, as long as I my "real life" allows me to have time to spend on it and there is good work I can do promoting & talking about Firefly I want to keep going in some fashion.

And I. But I won't be able to spend as much time on it in the future as I do now, so, come November, as a minimum we will have to drop frequency.

But listen folks, this conversation seems to consist of a fair few people saying "please make more Signal", and us saying "we'll do what we can". What I want to hear, though, is people saying "I can do XYZ". That would help. The more people there are that can do XYZ, the more chance there is that Firefly/Serenity podcasting will keep going enough to keep us all happy.

And I'll make an offer, here in this forum. This will be mentioned in the next show, but you're going to here it here first...

If you make your own Serenity/Firefly related podcast, then we will put your first episode on our feed, so that all the listeners of the Signal will get to hear it. (Of course, you'll still need to persuade people to subscribe to it if they want to hear the second episode). But it's a good offer, and it's free publicity ... so think about it. This forum is just such an absolutely brilliant place to get those ideas together.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a great fan of the 'casts and think you're doing an excellent job.

Personally, I much prefer the "informative" segments (reviews, interviews, science stuff) to the "fun" segments (the Blue Sun commercials and etc.) - I mention this only in case the one are easier to produce than the other, and in case you somehow decide to steer the show in a direction based solely on my own personal and humble opinion.

As for "How to Speak Chinese", though I would consider it more fun than informative, I say keep it around. The guy's voice is starting to get to me, though. Unless that's his actual voice, in which case, hey, cool, that guy's got a great voice.
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I agree. The "I Like Chinese" guy voice is sooooooooooooo good. He can read me bed times stories any time and I mean that in a nice way.
He's like, Lou Raulls. It's very soothing. Which makes it sooooo darn funny that he is teaching us swear words! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI, for those who may have come to session416.com thanks to this special edition mentioning the viral marketing campaign for "Serenity" I thought I'd drop in quick just for this: If you've caught yourself up on the Sessions that have been released, and are wondering where the next (and reportedly final) one is, the answer is: We don't know yet.

According to summer-glau.com (where two of the four exisitng clips first surfaced): "There's some unforseen hold-up on getting our hands on the (now confirmed) 5th and last 'Session' video clip. We'll keep you informed!"

So come join the waiting. Heh.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, I LOVE your 'casts and I just wanted to put my two cents worth in. I agree with the poster that said they preferred the "informative" segments to the "fun" segments. Not that information ain't fun, especially when it's info about our Big Damn Heroes. But if it were ever to boil down to a decision between the essays (like the fantastic "Kaylee: The Soul of Serenity" and "What's in a Name") and the Blue Sun commercials, I vote for Kaylee.

Incidentally, whatever happens you MUST keep Bubba Fett. Seriously. That guy is gold!
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Heheh, I wrote the "What's in a Name" AND several of the Blue Sun commercials. I'm not sure if I should be pleased or take exception. Surprised Seriously, though, it's more than just meat versus milk. There needs to be variety and breaks for light-heartedness blended in with the heavy and analytical.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just one difference of opinion about what you said in the special edition about October not mattering since the movie will already be out.
I disagree, I think October will be the most most important month. Opening weekend is vital, but as Wedding Crashers showed, the long term numbers are just as important. keeping the buzz going through October is what we need for the super profits to get a big damn sequel.

It's the middle of October, joe blow hears from a few coworkers about this movie Serenity that rocked, then he's cruising podcast alley and sees a Serenity podcast in the top 10 and realizes there's something to the buzz and gives a listen, then goes to see the movie and is hooked.

October is the time for the big push since it will be coinciding with the positive buzz from those who give the movie a chance and see just how gorram shiny it is. That's when maximum saturation in every arena possible will have the best return and get new people in those seats and keep Serenity at the top of the charts.

Love the podcast and have been listening since the beginning, you people are doing good works and should be glad
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errhead wrote:
Just one difference of opinion about what you said in the special edition about October not mattering since the movie will already be out.
I disagree, I think October will be the most most important month. Opening weekend is vital, but as Wedding Crashers showed, the long term numbers are just as important. keeping the buzz going through October is what we need for the super profits to get a big damn sequel.

It's the middle of October, joe blow hears from a few coworkers about this movie Serenity that rocked, then he's cruising podcast alley and sees a Serenity podcast in the top 10 and realizes there's something to the buzz and gives a listen, then goes to see the movie and is hooked.


I take the point, but the whole idea is to build up buzz before the movie. In October we'll be hassling everyone to go see it!

But rest assured, we're not going to prevent anyone from voting for the Signal; we only said we'd stop hassling. And I think that's fair enough.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Hey Signal Crew,

Here are my ideas for future podcasts...

1. Right now you have many people who work on, write, and produce segments for your show, all of them are golden and most take a few episodes to air. Perhaps after october you can do one segment a month. have fewer people working over a longer period of time to create segments that can keep the signal busy until Serenity 2. Eventually others would start to contribute and perhaps as soon as say next spring whole segments can be produced with none of the current staff at all. This could free your lives of the Podcast, yet keep it alive.

2. The monthly idea, while not bad, would require an overhall of the format of the show. More emphasis would be put on segments and preproduced items rather then news or anticipitory banter. Most people say that if you switched to a monthly it would have to be longer then your already lengthy weekly shows. Not really the case i think, there are several monthly podcast that are only 30 minutes long, it is the content that is important.

3. This is my favorite of the ideas for future 'casting. Change the format of the show completly. Have independently produced segments created and released under the Signal banner. They dont have to be regular, just send 'em when you get 'em. Then every 2 months you do a large round table cast. You get 5 or 6 people together (maybe more) and you discuss a topic. The topics could be stuff like Serenity V The Millenium Falcon: A Star Wars/ Firefly Battle Royal or Inara, Kaylee, Zoe, River and Jayne: The Women of Serenity, i have plenty of topic ideas and those are only the first two on the list. Then in addition to The Roundtable eps, and the Segments, you do commentary episodes. Do a running commentary on episodes of firefly or even the film itself when it is released on DvD. Plus i am certain the ability to snag interviews with the cast and the people involved with the 'verse would increase when the marketing of the movie is complete.

There are endless ideas and ways to go with this guys, lets explore them and run with one... but you cant stop the signal, i would imagine you guys would know that most of all

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Hi,

I wanted to talk about the Jewel Staite interview you played in the recent SE3 podcast. In particular the talk of a ten year deal with Fox where new episodes of the show cannot be produced.

I'm amazed that this is still believed, as it has been pointed out loads of times on the Browncoats board that it is untrue. Joss Whedon himself stated at a con a few months back that this is untrue. I have a clip of it somewhere. Nathan Fillion then looked guilty and admitted that he may have started the rumour off! No doubt that is who Jewel got the info from.

So there you go. The ten year deal is completely untrue. If someone wanted to make more episodes, they would still need to buy the rights from Fox and of course get Joss and the cast on board. Sadly I still don't think it makes it any more likely we will ever get more episodes.

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That's really cool news. But if you could possibly more specific than "...on the Browncoats board...", "...at a con a few months back...", and "...somewhere..." then we could definitely change it from a rumor to a falsehood. What we need is evidence. Do we have any?
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Thanks for the reply Kate.

I am posting this at work so I don't have the details available here.

I'll try and find out which Con this was confirmed at. I have various video clips on my PC at home of different Con panels and I have no idea which one it was. My vague recollection is that it is one where Nathan is sat next to Joss who is chairing the panel.

By Browncoats board I meant the official movie message board at www.browncoats.serenitymovie.com. I (and others) have tried to point out this out to people who have mentioned the ten-year thing, but it keeps coming up!

Hope my post didn't sound too snippy!

I'll post again when I know which Con this rumour was discussed at.

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Okay, cool. Well, you shouldn't be too surprised about the prevelance of any rumor. You've got to appreciate that Firefly is liked by vast numbers of people, most of whom don't frequent the official forum. And that's not unexpected - I like Babylon 5, for example, but I don't frequent any Babylon 5 forums - it's just not a requirement. So people who like Firefly will get their information from wherever they happen to find it. In this particular case, the rumor resurfaced on a recent edition of the Dragon Page Winging It podcast, when a listener called Mark from Memphis phoned in to tell everyone that there was a TWENTY year deal. He claimed Jewel Staite as the source of this information. The rumor was repeated a few more times over the next few weeks.

I'd heard the Jewel interview in which she claimed a TEN year deal, so I figured we could at least partially quash the rumor. But I had no reason to disbelieve Jewel. Mind you, I had my suspicions. I know that that Jewel interview was recorded in April, but that in May no-one at the Starfury Serenity convention (including Jewel) seemed to know anything about such a deal. But I wasn't sure. I might have misremembered.

I don't frequent the official forum. I only frequent this one. Please don't hold it against me (or the rest of the Signal crew) that we're not omnipresent, and don't know everything. I promise though - if we have evidence, we will present it.

(But I would bet good money on the notion that the rumor will surface again, even after that).
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